[Bluej-discuss] Open Source

[Lon Levy]

May I respectfully disagree with those of you who are advocating a
change to open source for BlueJ.

As a high school computer science teacher, there are many things that I
want an IDE to do for my students.  Equally important are the things
that I do NOT want it to do.  I know that some of these are
controversial items where we can professionally disagree as to the
merits.

I do not want my beginning students to have code completion.  I want
them to think things through and use the API ... not have the selection
offered to them.  I don't want a pop up wizard offering creation of a
method they are invoking that does not yet exist or creation of a class
that they are trying to instantiate.  I want my students to learn to
think for themselves before they are offered fantastic tools like these
in a advanced user/professional IDE.

If BlueJ goes open source, then you are free to create the tools that I
want to keep away from my students for a while.  This would undermine
the learning process for those students who are already adept at
searching the web for tools written by others, but not yet knowledgeable
enough to do these tasks for themselves.

Please, Michael and Bruce and the rest of the BlueJ team, keep doing
the quality work that so benefits my students.  Please do not toss your
efforts out to Open Source.

Thank you,

Lon Levy.

Lon Levy, MS-CSEd
Computer Science Teacher
Volunteer Computer Club Advisor
Oregon High School
608-835-1316
 
Lon.Levy at oregonsd.org
LXL at oregon.k12.wi.us
cs at levytree.net

non somnos requiem


>>> "Adrovane Kade" <adrovane at gmail.com> 11/15/2007 6:10 AM >>>
Hi.

I agree that there is no more reason to keep the BlueJ source code
closed. I understand the authors' concerns about financing the project
and keep control over development. But I think there's so many people
using it now and so many improvements could be made available faster
if it was open source. Another reason I think it is important is the
fact that BlueJ is not intended to compete with "industrial" Java
IDEs. Its main purpose is to teach object-oriented development, isn't
it? So, this educational motivation, IMHO, makes it an almost
"natural" candidate for open source.

Regards,

Adrovane.

2007/11/14, Chris Share <cpsmusic at yahoo.com>:
> I agree!
>
> I raised the issue of breakpoints disappering after each compile and
nothing has been done about it. If BlueJ was OS I could have addressed
this myself.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Martin Jürgens <martin at gamesplace.info>
> To: bluej-discuss at bluej.org 
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:18:40 AM
> Subject: [Bluej-discuss]  Open Source
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I would like to second the wish of BlueJ being licensed under an
> OSI-compatible license.
>
> With BlueJ 2.20, I have an issue making it unusable for me and my
> stundents. I have already reported a bug report, but there does not
>  seem
> to be a lot of progress being made regarding the issue.
>
> If BlueJ was Open Source, I could have looked up which change caused
> that issue and tell you my result.
>
> As most Linux distributions only distribute Open Source code, BlueJ
> could flow into them and be installed and discovered by many
potential
> users by some simple clicks.
>
> And lastly, if the BlueJ development stopped, a community could
improve
> it and make sure that it runs on modern platforms (although Java is
a
> good start ;)).
>
>
> Martin
>
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